ThanksView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
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Love this guyView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
perfectView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
villainmrx
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HiView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
ibanezjfi3
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thanksView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
SujoyDS
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TyView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
sfasView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
当您收到消息告诉您“将运输地址添加到文件上”时，请了解发生了什么。这些不是字面的说明 - 他们提供了通用的拒绝消息，上面写着“您的订单失败了我们的欺诈检查”。
超越神话
童话在这个游戏中很昂贵。您要面对的欺诈预防系统具有多个层：网络规则，发行人AI商人安全堆栈，运输情报和行为分析。依靠简单的“解决方案”是业余爱好者而不是计算利润的原因。
掌握整个生态系统，系统地测试并不断调整。当某人向您出售他们的“ 100％保证方法”时，请记住：如果它实际上是完美无缺的，他们会默默地利用它，而不是把它拖到陌生人那里以换取口袋。
在此游戏中，您的胡说八道探测器是您最有价值的资产。在您锐化工具之前，请先提高批判性思维，并且您可能只能生存足够长的时间来赚钱。 d0ctrine。
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? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
吨thakns a lot ofView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
持卡人担心，进行自拍验证意味着一些员工会保存他们的照片并记住他们的脸。这误解了现代 KYC 的运作方式。
如今的 KYC 系统主要都是自动化的。你的面部图像会被转换成数学数据点。公司实际上并不会保存你的原始照片/自拍视频，他们只保留其数学表示。只有当系统标记出严重不一致之处时才会进行人工审核，即使如此，这些系统通常也会要求提供更多文件，而审核人员每天要处理数百份验证，而且无法记住具体个人。
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“活体验证”只是确认您在验证过程中确实在场，而不是使用打印的照片。您应该关注的是验证材料的一致性——匹配灯光、拍摄角度并确保元数据对齐。这比担心有人记住您的脸重要得多。
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这并不意味着你应该把你的头像贴到每家加密货币服务上，去兑换价值 20 美元的 ETH。除非你有一个孪生兄弟，否则你的肖像权只属于你自己。所以请妥善保管。
已验证送货地址的误区
“银行每次交易都会验证您的收货地址”——这种误解让信用卡持有者损失了无数机会。真相：对于Visa、 Mastercard和Discover卡，银行只能通过支持 AVS 的卡查看账单地址。收货地址永远不会传输给发卡银行。
美国运通拥有一套AAV/AAV+系统，持卡人可以注册备用地址，但除了奢侈品和旅游行业外，很少有商家会采用该系统。一些老牌商家可能会致电银行进行人工验证，但由于交易量巨大，且零售商与银行之间存在多层级的隔离，这种情况如今已很少发生。只有那些销售超高端商品且值得花费精力和金钱的商家，才会继续使用这种过时的安全措施。
虽然3DS 2.0系统可以将运输数据纳入风险评估，但银行不会仅根据收货地址直接批准或拒绝交易。真正的验证是在商家端通过反欺诈规则和对历史订单的分析进行的。
当您收到“将您的收货地址添加到您的存档卡中”的消息时，请了解发生了什么。这些并非字面意义上的指令，而是泛泛的拒绝信息，提示“您的订单未通过我们的欺诈检查”。
超越神话
在这场游戏中，童话故事的代价是昂贵的。你面临的反欺诈系统包含多个层面：网络规则、发卡机构AI、商户安全堆栈、运输情报和行为分析。依赖过于简单的“解决方案”是业余爱好者们发帖抱怨而不是计算利润的原因。
掌握整个生态系统，系统地测试并不断调整。当有人向你兜售他们的“ 100%保证的方法”时，请记住：如果它真的完美无缺，他们就会默默地利用它——而不是为了一点零钱就把它卖给陌生人。
在这个游戏中，你的“胡说八道探测器”是你最宝贵的资产。在磨练你的工具之前，先磨练你的批判性思维，这样你才有可能活得足够久，赚到真正的钱。教义出来了。
Good Stoff as alwaysView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
Good shit as alwaysView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
thkx docsView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
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The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out
thank god for giving us d0crtineView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
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