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Carding ? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
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how do you make a selfie pic pass a "Liveness checks"?View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
queerboss2
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Nice info for knowldfeView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
giGgerTron4gin
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tyView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
khjbksderffgView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
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great
Very informative thanksView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
@&@!$!%&View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
realactavis
Carding Novice
- Joined
- 02.06.25
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- 15
- Reaction score
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? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
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The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
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"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
genView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
is regular ass mobile carrier ip better than icloud relay tho?View attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
alacantard
Carding Novice
- Joined
- 19.01.25
- Messages
- 13
- Reaction score
- 3
- Points
- 3
good
goodView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
yojView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
A los carders les preocupa que al hacer selfis de verificación algún empleado guarde su foto y recuerde su rostro. Esto no comprende el funcionamiento del KYC moderno.
Los sistemas KYC actuales están principalmente automatizados. Tu imagen facial se convierte en puntos de datos matemáticos. Las empresas nunca guardan tus fotos o selfis originales; solo conservan la representación matemática. La revisión humana solo se realiza cuando el sistema detecta inconsistencias graves, e incluso entonces, estos sistemas suelen solicitar más documentos mientras los revisores procesan cientos de verificaciones a diario sin forma de recordar a las personas.
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Las comprobaciones de vida simplemente confirman tu presencia física durante la verificación, en lugar de usar una foto impresa. Debes centrarte en la coherencia entre los materiales de verificación: la iluminación y los ángulos de cámara coincidentes, y asegurar la alineación de los metadatos. Esto es mucho más importante que preocuparte de que alguien memorice tu rostro.
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Esto no significa que debas mostrar tu cara en cada plataforma de criptomonedas para pagar $20 en ETH. A menos que tengas un gemelo, tu imagen es solo tuya. Así que mantenla a salvo.
El mito de la dirección de envío verificada
"Los bancos verifican tu dirección de envío en cada transacción": esta idea errónea ha costado innumerables oportunidades a los emisores de tarjetas. Verdad: En el caso de Visa , Mastercard y Discover, los bancos solo ven la dirección de facturación a través de tarjetas compatibles con AVS. La dirección de envío nunca se transmite al banco emisor.
American Express cuenta con un sistema AAV/AAV+ donde los titulares de tarjetas pueden registrar direcciones alternativas, pero pocos comercios lo implementan fuera del sector de artículos de lujo y viajes. Algunos comercios más antiguos pueden solicitar la verificación manual al banco, pero esto rara vez ocurre hoy en día debido al gran volumen de transacciones y a las múltiples capas que separan a los minoristas de los bancos. Solo los comercios que venden artículos de alta gama que justifican la molestia y el gasto aún se molestan en implementar esta medida de seguridad anticuada.
Si bien los sistemas 3DS 2.0 pueden incluir datos de envío en la evaluación de riesgos, los bancos no aprueban ni rechazan transacciones directamente basándose únicamente en las direcciones de envío. La verificación real se realiza por parte del comerciante mediante normas antifraude y el análisis de pedidos anteriores.
Cuando recibas mensajes que te piden que "agregues tu dirección de envío a tu tarjeta registrada", comprende qué sucede. No son instrucciones literales, sino mensajes de rechazo genéricos que dicen "tu pedido no pasó nuestras comprobaciones de fraude".
Más allá de la mitología
En este juego, los cuentos de hadas salen caros. El sistema de prevención del fraude al que te enfrentas tiene múltiples capas: reglas de red, seguridad comercial con IA del emisor, inteligencia de envíos y análisis de comportamiento. Apostar por "soluciones" simplistas es la razón por la que los aficionados se enfurecen en lugar de contabilizar las ganancias.
Domina todo el ecosistema, prueba sistemáticamente y adáptate constantemente. Cuando alguien te venda su " método 100% garantizado ", recuerda: si realmente funcionara a la perfección, lo estarían explotando en secreto, no vendiéndolo a desconocidos por una miseria.
En este juego, tu detector de mentiras es tu activo más valioso. Agudiza tu pensamiento crítico antes de afilar tus herramientas, y podrías sobrevivir lo suficiente para ganar dinero de verdad. Doctrina fuera.
niceView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
View attachment 55618
"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
View attachment 55617
This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
"Banks verify your shipping address with every transaction" - this misconception has cost carders countless opportunities. Truth: For Visa Mastercard, and Discover banks only see the billing address through cards that support AVS. The shipping address is never transmitted to the issuing bank.
American Express has an AAV/AAV+ system where cardholders can register alternate addresses, but few merchants implement this outside luxury goods and travel sectors. Some older merchants might call the bank for manual verification but this rarely happens nowadays due to the sheer volume of transactions and the multiple layers separating retailers from banks. Only merchants selling ultra-premium items worth the hassle and expense still bother with this dinosaur of a security measure.
While 3DS 2.0 systems can include shipping data in risk assessment, banks don't directly approve or deny transactions based on shipping addresses alone. The real verification happens on the merchant side through antifraud rules and analysis of previous orders.
When you get messages telling you to "add your shipping address to your card on file" understand whats happening. These aren't literal instructions - theyre generic rejection messages saying "your order failed our fraud checks."
Beyond the Mythology
Fairy tales are expensive in this game. The fraud prevention system you're up against has multiple layers: network rules, issuer AI merchant security stacks, shipping intelligence and behavioral analytics. Banking on simplistic "solutions" is why amateurs rage-post instead of counting profits.
Master the entire ecosystem, test systematically and adapt constantly. When someone sells you their "100% guaranteed method," remember: if it actually worked flawlessly they'd be exploiting it silently—not hawking it to strangers for pocket change.
In this game, your bullshit detector is your most valuable asset. Sharpen your critical thinking before you sharpen your tools, and you might just survive long enough to make some real money. d0ctrine out.
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? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
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The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
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The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
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BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
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Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders worry that doing verification selfies means some employee will save their photo and remember their face. This misunderstands how modern KYC works.
Todays KYC systems are primarily automated. Your facial image gets converted into mathematical data points. Companies never actually save your original photos/selfie videos and they only keep the mathematical representation. Human review only happens when the system flags serious inconsistencies, and even then these system typically request further documents while reviewers process hundreds of verifications daily with no way to remember individuals.
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"Liveness checks" simply confirm you're physically present during verification rather than using a printed photo. Your focus should be on consistency across verification materials - matching lighting, camera angles and ensuring metadata alignment. This matters far more than worrying about someone memorizing your face.
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This doesnt mean you should plaster your face across every crypto service to card $20 worth of ETH. Unless you have a twin, your likeness is yours only. So keep it safe.
The Verified Shipping Address Myth
“银行通过每笔交易验证您的送货地址”-这种误解使梳理者获得了无数机会。真相: 维萨 万事达卡,和 发现 银行只看到 计费 通过支持AVS的卡进行地址。送货地址永远不会传输到发行银行。
美国运通 有一个 AAV / AAV + 持卡人可以注册备用地址的系统,但是很少有商家在奢侈品和旅游领域之外实施此系统。一些较老的商家可能会致电银行进行手动验证,但由于交易量巨大以及零售商与银行之间的多层分离,如今这种情况很少发生。只有出售价值麻烦和费用的超高级物品的商人仍然对这种安全措施的恐龙感到困扰。
虽然 3DS 2。0 系统可以在风险评估中包括运输数据,银行不会仅基于运输地址直接批准或拒绝交易。真正的验证是通过反欺诈规则和对先前订单的分析在商家方面进行的。
当您收到消息告诉您“将送货地址添加到文件中的卡”时,请了解发生了什么。这些不是字面上的指示-它们是通用的拒绝消息,提示“您的订单未通过我们的欺诈检查”。
超越神话
在这个游戏中,童话故事很昂贵。您要面对的欺诈预防系统具有多层:网络规则,发行人AI商家安全堆栈,运输情报和行为分析。依靠简单的“解决方案”是为什么业余爱好者愤怒而不是计算利润的原因。
掌握整个生态系统,进行系统测试并不断适应。当有人卖给你他们的“100%保证方法,”请记住:如果它确实可以完美地工作,那么他们会默默地利用它—,而不是将其拖给陌生人进行零花钱。
在这个游戏中,你 废话探测器 是您最有价值的资产。在锐化工具之前,先锐化批判性思维,这样您就可以生存足够长的时间才能赚到一些真钱。d0ctrine出来。
thank for sharing manView attachment 55608
? Dispelling Some Common Carding Myths ?
I see it every fucking day - newcomers waddling into forums clutching the same recycled bullshit they found on some sketchy Telegram channel. While these poor bastards are busy chasing ghosts actual carders are laughing all the way to their crypto wallets. Time to take a sledgehammer to the myths that are probably destroying your success rate right now.
View attachment 55610
The "Clean IP" Fantasy
Youve heard it a thousand times: virgin IPs are magical talismans that guarantee approvals, and anything "dirty" gets you instantly rejected. What a load of horseshit.
While 'clean is somewhat useful it's not the holy grail Telegram dwellers make it out to be. A lot of times the dirtiest, most flagged IPs work better than your precious "clean" ones. Mobile carrier IPs and iCloud Private Relay addresses throw red flags on paper but no merchant can afford to block them without committing financial suicide.
Entropy is your best friend. Anti-fraud systems must balance catching fraudsters against blocking legitimate customers. When an IP is shared among thousands of users, the system faces an impossible choice:
Mobile data pools are digital cesspools where thousands of devices share addresses. Anti-fraud AI cant isolate you without catching countless innocent shoppers. When Apple stamps "legitimate" on Cloudflare endpoints through iCloud Private Relay, merchants must approve these transactions despite their risk scores or block millions of high-spending Apple customers.
- block it and lose millions in revenue
- or accept the noise and let some fraud slip through
Meanwhile those "pristine" datacenter IPs you're paying premium for? Advanced antifraud systems have already cataloged them. They stand out precisely because theyre too clean - lacking the organic patterns that legitimate connections have. And they often already have bad records on Radar and other antifraud providers anyway.
Sometimes it's better to hide in plain sight with mobile data or Relay than use overpriced "clean" proxies. The crowd provides better cover than isolation ever could.
*** Hidden text: cannot be quoted. ***
The BIN Delusion
Forums are crawling with newbies hunting for that mystical six-digit combination that supposedly bypasses all security. Some idiots actually pay for these "magic BINs" in Telegram groups, begging "Drop your working BINs!" as if some secret number sequence is their ticket to unlimited approvals.
View attachment 55614
BINs arent magical keys. They're one tiny data point in an ocean of signals. Risk models, 3DS protocols, velocity checks, device fingerprinting, and shipping patterns all carry more weight than those first six digits youre obsessing over.
View attachment 55615
Hammering the same "working" BIN is digital suicide—you're spoon-feeding the machine learning exactly what to flag next. Transaction coherence matters more than any magic number sequence.
Your device fingerprints, AVS matching, and realistic purchase patterns will get you further than the hottest BIN list ever could.
KYC Paranoia
Carders lo ngại rằng việc chụp ảnh tự sướng xác minh có nghĩa là một số nhân viên sẽ lưu ảnh của họ và nhớ khuôn mặt của họ. Điều này hiểu sai cách thức hoạt động của KYC hiện đại.
Hệ thống KYC ngày nay chủ yếu là tự động. Hình ảnh khuôn mặt của bạn được chuyển đổi thành các điểm dữ liệu toán học. Các công ty không bao giờ thực sự lưu ảnh gốc/video tự sướng của bạn và họ chỉ giữ lại biểu diễn toán học. Đánh giá của con người chỉ xảy ra khi hệ thống đánh dấu những điểm không nhất quán nghiêm trọng và ngay cả khi đó, hệ thống này thường yêu cầu thêm tài liệu trong khi người đánh giá xử lý hàng trăm xác minh hàng ngày mà không có cách nào để ghi nhớ các cá nhân.
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" Kiểm tra độ sống " chỉ đơn giản là xác nhận bạn có mặt trực tiếp trong quá trình xác minh thay vì sử dụng ảnh in. Bạn nên tập trung vào tính nhất quán giữa các tài liệu xác minh - ánh sáng phù hợp, góc máy ảnh và đảm bảo căn chỉnh siêu dữ liệu. Điều này quan trọng hơn nhiều so với việc lo lắng về việc ai đó ghi nhớ khuôn mặt của bạn.
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Điều này không có nghĩa là bạn nên dán mặt mình lên mọi dịch vụ tiền điện tử để rút 20 đô la ETH. Trừ khi bạn có anh em sinh đôi, nếu không thì hình ảnh của bạn chỉ là của riêng bạn. Vì vậy, hãy giữ an toàn.
Huyền thoại về địa chỉ giao hàng đã xác minh
"Các ngân hàng xác minh địa chỉ giao hàng của bạn với mọi giao dịch" - quan niệm sai lầm này đã khiến những người làm thẻ mất vô số cơ hội. Sự thật: Đối với Visa Mastercard và Discover , các ngân hàng chỉ thấy địa chỉ thanh toán thông qua các thẻ hỗ trợ AVS. Địa chỉ giao hàng không bao giờ được truyền đến ngân hàng phát hành.
American Express có hệ thống AAV/AAV+, nơi chủ thẻ có thể đăng ký địa chỉ thay thế, nhưng ít thương gia triển khai hệ thống này bên ngoài các ngành hàng xa xỉ và du lịch. Một số thương gia lớn tuổi có thể gọi ngân hàng để xác minh thủ công nhưng điều này hiếm khi xảy ra ngày nay do khối lượng giao dịch quá lớn và nhiều lớp ngăn cách các nhà bán lẻ với ngân hàng. Chỉ những thương gia bán các mặt hàng siêu cao cấp xứng đáng với sự rắc rối và chi phí mới phải bận tâm đến biện pháp bảo mật khủng khiếp này.
Trong khi hệ thống 3DS 2.0 có thể bao gồm dữ liệu vận chuyển trong đánh giá rủi ro, các ngân hàng không trực tiếp chấp thuận hoặc từ chối giao dịch chỉ dựa trên địa chỉ giao hàng. Việc xác minh thực sự diễn ra ở phía thương gia thông qua các quy tắc chống gian lận và phân tích các đơn hàng trước đó.
Khi bạn nhận được tin nhắn yêu cầu "thêm địa chỉ giao hàng vào thẻ trong hồ sơ", hãy hiểu điều gì đang xảy ra. Đây không phải là hướng dẫn theo nghĩa đen - chúng là tin nhắn từ chối chung chung nói rằng "đơn hàng của bạn không vượt qua được kiểm tra gian lận của chúng tôi".
Vượt qua thần thoại
Truyện cổ tích rất tốn kém trong trò chơi này. Hệ thống phòng chống gian lận mà bạn phải đối mặt có nhiều lớp: quy tắc mạng, ngăn xếp bảo mật thương gia AI của bên phát hành, thông tin tình báo về vận chuyển và phân tích hành vi. Việc dựa vào "giải pháp" đơn giản là lý do tại sao những người nghiệp dư lại tức giận thay vì đếm lợi nhuận.
Làm chủ toàn bộ hệ sinh thái, kiểm tra có hệ thống và liên tục thích nghi. Khi ai đó bán cho bạn " phương pháp đảm bảo 100% " của họ, hãy nhớ rằng: nếu nó thực sự hoạt động hoàn hảo, họ sẽ khai thác nó một cách âm thầm—không phải bán nó cho người lạ để kiếm lời.
Trong trò chơi này, máy phát hiện nói dối là tài sản giá trị nhất của bạn. Hãy mài giũa tư duy phản biện trước khi mài giũa công cụ, và bạn có thể sống sót đủ lâu để kiếm được một số tiền thực sự. d0ctrine out.
